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Mutain< HellTown, Boston Township?
« Thread started on: Nov 16th, 2003, 04:17am » |
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Any storys from the Boston heights/township areas. I have some ranging from the Stanford rd , Boston mills area. Also the Everet rd Covered Bridge near Reveree Ohio.. Its 4am now so I will have to type them out later.
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Ive spent many years of my misguided youth searching every inch i could get to in the area of Boston town ship called Hell Town or Mutaine town...
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Re: Mutain< HellTown, Boston Township?
« Reply #1 on: Nov 17th, 2003, 6:16pm » |
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Well, from what i've uncovered so far, pretty much 99% of the "Hell town stories are just urban legends. if you have anything else to contribute, by all means do so.
I once heard a story about an old house at Olde Eight and Boston Mills Road, but i'm not sure if i should believe it or not. If the house dates back to the civil War era, it could be true but i have yet to find anything conclusive.
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Re: Mutain< HellTown, Boston Township?
« Reply #2 on: Nov 18th, 2003, 12:12am » |
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Yes you are correct at least 99.9% of the stories are made up by people that are to affraid to leave their cars.
Some I have investigated myself. (lowtech seek and destroy missions)
1) The Faceless man of stanford rd...
What i found.. The so called faceless man was an old tow truck driver with a Birthdefect which made his retnas appear to be white. looked to just have a pupil and no retna. I beleive he is no longer with us but I spoke to him once and he was a nice man.
2) All the stories of mutans where just made up because of all the hazzardus waste stored on top of boston mills rd.
3) The house on the blocked end of Stanford rd being a witches house ? Just because there is a stone in front of the home with a W engraved in it this automaticly means Witch..lol good stuff.
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Re: Mutain< HellTown, Boston Township?
« Reply #3 on: Nov 18th, 2003, 12:48am » |
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here are the short versions of a couple stories.
Covered bridge:
In the winter of 1998 a few of my friendsand i where there at night playing around on the ice covering the small creek under the bridge. We where just slippin and slidin having a fun time. About 20 minutes into our fun we heard the sound of horses clippity clopping through the bridge. We where stunned that someone would be out on horses this late at night but by the monster horse droppings on the bridge you know they do come through there at some point. But they just stopped in the middle of the bridge?? We waited there for about 10 minutes and heard nothing more. So we went to investigate and d**ned if there where no horses or riders in the bridge.
Long story short I wanted to stay and see if we could hear it again but everyone else was scared and wanted to leave... Ghosts mmmhh maybe. Did we somehow not see or hear the riders ride off definatly not
Jaite paper mill:
It had to be the summer of 93 or so me and a group of friends got a fearless streak in us and at about 3 AM we drove the newly made "BIKE" path to the mill. Did I say we drove our cars on the bike path..lol Well I was with a driver because I had no licence at that time
We got in the gate by pushing it open enough to fit our selves through the gate. We walked aroud back to what must have been the old loading docks and squeezed in to the building. All we had were 1 flash light and a pen light bettween the 5 of us.
We had fun looking at all the old machinery and looking through some old scattered paperwork but we didnt do any damage. At one point we came to stairway that led down to what might have been the basemant or who knows what but there was a cold breeze comeing up from it. And at that point we Started hereing all sorts of noises coming form the building.. We didnt stick around after that.
My thought now as Ive grown older.
Cold coming from a basement>>> not uncommon. especialy when it is hot out.
Noises in the building. Not uncommon and most likely feeling the cold heightened our sences abit and also being a bit scared made us hear more than was there.
Haunted<<< Dont know and cannot say for sure either way.... I also in no way condone breaking into anywhere like we did.
Stanford Rd Hostle.
A friends car broke down at the bottom of the big hill on stanford rd. So knowing the closest phone was most likely at the Hostle we walked up to it. It was about 2AM and the hostle people where NOT Happy to see us.
So they offerd to make a phone call for us so we stood out side looking in the doorway as they called.
My eyes ketp wandering to the stairway something didnt look right. I could see a shadow of someone sitting on the seps but noone was actually there?
I got my friend to look not telling him what i saw and he immediatly noticed it.
Here is where it got weirder. To me the shadow coulda been anything that might have been reflecting on the wall. So If you can picture Him looking in the window me looking at him in the eyes. all of a sudden his eyes bugged out and I looked back in to the shadow and the shadow took a few steps up the stairs and poof gone........ I thought it was cool and my friend was less than enthused......
by the way I know i have weak spelling skills so bare with me.
Its been along time since ive been to the hostle and they have renovated it so i dont know what that would do to any hauntings. Or if the layout has been alttered in the 10 years since this exsperience.
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Re: Mutain< HellTown, Boston Township?
« Reply #4 on: Nov 28th, 2003, 7:39pm » |
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Well, Hell Town is full of legends... I've heard about the vehicle with one headlight so many times i can't count! The toxic waste is actually in a different section of Boston Mills Road, but legends shift location over time. And the "W"... my knowledge ot rrailroads helped me with that. It's a whistle signal for old rail lines, probably taken from the Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railroad nearby.
You're not the only one to hear those horses on the covered bridge. I still wish I could experience it.
Jaite Mill is definitely active. I'm still working on compiling the actual records to back up the stories. I know of one fatality there thats documented, but still digging up the rest, no pun intended.
I've never heard of the hostle being haunted, but it might e interesting to check out. Renovations usually increase activity.
Haven't heard from you in a while... Keep the ideas and stories coming!!
Ken
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Re: Mutain< HellTown, Boston Township?
« Reply #5 on: Dec 3rd, 2003, 04:17am » |
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was wondering if you read these.... I will consult with friends to jog the data bank..lol
I can remember a strange acurance. Up by Blue Hen falls there was a barn at the bottom of that hill on the right going away from the military baracks I went there about 8 times during the day in the summer of 95 or 96 there where always many dead animals outside the barn doors. Rats coons snakes possums. Not mutilated or anything just laying there. We told the rangers about this and the barn was torn down the next summer. probly some sort of poison. But was chilling to see it.
I think poisoning because in the basement there was old boxes and a old flamethrower from wwII and it was flooded waist deep so i can imagine what else was in that muck.. Not Paranormal but interesting
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Re: Mutain< HellTown, Boston Township?
« Reply #6 on: Apr 9th, 2004, 9:41pm » |
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A friend and I having an independant investigation team, have been visiting Hell Town for well over a year now. Some days nothing happens, and other days we find a lot of activity. The majority of the activity happens at dusk and dawn and can be seen in the form of orbs and an overall feeling of sadness. If any of you have noted the copious amout of deer in the area, you know its almost erie. On one occasion we counted(and recounted for varification) 41 deer congregated in a residents back yard. My friend aproached a deer and it made eyecontact with her and she almost cried, she said "The deer made me feel very scared when I looked at it. I though it was going to kill me."
Anyone else find the "helltown" deer suspicious?
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Re: Mutain< HellTown, Boston Township?
« Reply #7 on: May 17th, 2004, 10:22pm » |
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I grew up in Boston Hts, and spent a lot of time in the surrounding woods and roads of Boston Township. I learned to drive in helltown around 1980 and biked and hiked there through much of the late 1980s and was never once scared or bothered-I don't recall seeing any people either. The place always seemed abandoned. I've even walked there at dusk and into dark.
I never heard any of the Helltown urban legends until the mid-1980s when a guy from Northfield drove me by the "cult" church and the mill. I vaguely recall some talk about that "mysterious" church earlier in the 1980s. I recall my sisters coming home at night -a few years ago-being freaked out by that church-I guess because they realized they had never seen it used for anything. It was always closed and empty in the 28 years I lived there.
I think these stories developed largely because the valley is rural and undeveloped compared to the urban surroundings, and getting high and driving through the backroads of the valley has been a favorite activity (that I have known) since the sixties. I suspect my family contributed to some of the valley legends. I personlly dubbed one back road "Pilgrim Country" after a early 70s movie called Crowhaven Farm-creepy cult film about devil worshipping pilgrims that killed some outsiders. This place was about a mile form our home but it still seemed far away. My brother spooked me on that road and later I spooked my friends from Hudson by getting stoned, driving into the Valley at night, and making up stories about Pilgrim country-interestingly, my stories were very much like the tales of the haunted bus, the wandering figures, and so on. I basically think this is because we all grew up with the same media influences and have internalized the archetypal scare stories. I do know of at least one case where my stories were passed on and retold in another car of stoners on the Valley backroads.
Not long ago (before I was directed to this site and the Helltown legends) I was wondering about why those areas were so ripe for this creative scare and it struck me how the valley had the only dirt roads in the area, you rarely saw the inhabitants, and there was a real sense of isolation down there-it was an easy drive to a striking contrast with middle class urban life in Hudson, Northfield, or anywhere else. Plus the valley has abandoned buildings to add to the mood.
I live in Vermont now and dirt roads, abandoned bldgs, and isolated rural places describe most of the state. I think the Valley legends developed primarily out of the combo of drugs and middle class teenage boredom.
I am open to other possibilities though. Old Peninsula was full of wild times and some research of old papers might turn up some interesting crimes. I recall very well that in the late 1960s, probably after the Manson murders, our woods became kind of spooky-we used to worry about kidnappers. There was a place where people squatted and partied-so that was always weird to come upon in "our" woods. The deer are in the Valley in big numbers because the Valley is surrounded by increasing development-if you want to be spooked look at a place that never says no to developing open space. The deer might have an evil look because their habitat has been so thoroughly messed with. If the Valley is cursed, as some of the legends say, it is from the Park Service coming in and pressing people through eminant domain to sell their homes for swindlers prices. I recall very well the emptied homes and bad vibes when big bro moved in.
My 2 cents. hope they were worth the read.
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JT
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Re: Mutain< HellTown, Boston Township?
« Reply #8 on: May 23rd, 2004, 01:35am » |
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I agree with JT's opinion about the valley area and it's reputation as 'Helltown'. I think that most people, particularly younger ones, just aren't used to the aura of peacefullness and the quiet atmosphere there compared to the busier surrounding area. We, as teenagers also used to feel that the metropark areas, like Bedfore Reservation and Brecksville Reservation were 'creepy', especially at night, driving through and telling scary stories and looking out the back window into pitch blackness.
During the day, from the hill in the Boston Cemetery, where I sometimes visit the graves of my ancestors, it really is very calming to look out over the surrounding fields and wooded areas. I've never felt anything eerie there at all. In fact I fell in love with the entire Boston-Peninsula area when I was little and we used to visit my mother's relatives who still lived there. I got married at the Bronson Church Museum and had our reception at the GAR Hall. When the people who worked in some of the shops in town that I liked to poke around in found out I was getting married there they were all helpful in giving us information to help us plan our wedding. It seemed to me that there was a real sense of community there and nothing scary or frightening at all. My husband and I moved up to Ct. and Mass. for about 5 years right after we got married and I definitely felt a lot of the same atmosphere up there that I felt in Boston/Peninsula, which have a very 'New England' town kind of feel and beauty. I think that maybe it is the feeling of being old and having history that for some reason feels creepy to some, and just really interesting to others.
As for the deer, yep...PLENTY of those! But 'killer deer'? Well, maybe if we give them cars so they can run over us the way we run over them as they are forced to run across the road that was put their by no choice of theirs!
There is a wonderful local history and geneaology center there in Peninsul that used to be housed in the town library but now I believe has been moved. I've looked through some of the collection there and the local historian/librarian was there the day I visited and was very helpful. Lots of great history there, old and not so old. If so many people didn't overun the area on the weekends and cause problems with the water supply I would be soooo tempted to move there so I could check out the history even more closely whenever I wanted. My great grandfather and his family attended the church in Boston and my grandfather worked at Jaite's Mill, which I have never really seen.
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Re: Mutain< HellTown, Boston Township?
« Reply #9 on: Sep 13th, 2004, 2:38pm » |
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That little cemetary on the hill along the towpath-
I have a written account from Joe Jesensky (an old park guy) who talked to the folks whose father was cartaker there (they were in there 90's). He said that every time they dug a grave on that hill they had to rebury all
the Indian bones they dug up. It was a cemetary
long before the evil white man showed up!
There's also an Indian village site on top of the hill
overlooking the valley past the Stanford Hostel on the
right.
A nd....the CVNRA did bring bad mojo to the valley!
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Re: Mutain< HellTown, Boston Township?
« Reply #10 on: Sep 14th, 2004, 10:13pm » |
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Just recently I read in the Cleveland Plain Dealer a letter from a reader complaining about the Cuyahoga Valley National Park. The writer (from Moreland Hills) wrote that he thought it was terrible that private enterprises, such as wineries, flower farms and other farms were allowed to exist in a national park. Now, I thought that rather humorous, considering that many of the farms in the area were farms owned by the same families for many, many years....they were there a LOT longer than the Park was designated a national place. The writer went on to say that he had been to Yellowstone and several other parks across the U.S. and that none of them allowed private enterprises within their limits. I think this guy missed the fact that the farms and even some of the businesses located in Peninsula and surrounding areas are of historical value and what was supposed to happen when it was taken over by the Park...was every existing structure to be torn down? Was every person who had a business there to be told to leave? I happen to enjoy going to local businesses there and sometimes getting a chance to meet up with people who knew relatives and ancestors of mine that lived there years ago and are now buried there. The local historical society and geneaology info have been invaluable to me in searching family history. But I guess all that should be put aside because this guy felt that it isn't Yellowstone! I wish I had kept the article so that I could quote him from it..but the arrogance of it still makes me bristle every time I think about it! Sorry to ramble on...lol...
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Re: Mutain< HellTown, Boston Township?
« Reply #11 on: Sep 16th, 2004, 1:05pm » |
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I read that article also.
Thing is, the CVNP took a lot of that farmland by eminent domain years back to preserve it, and after they forced the original land owners off, they now want
to lease the land to someone to farm it. Some of those
places have been in families for generations, but the park will not allow the property to be sold or transferred, when the title owner passes, the park
pays an est. value for it, takes the title, any in some cases levels the houses. Then again, they did stop a
townhouse development from building on an old Indian village sight south of rt82.
Guess you gotta take the good with the bad.....
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Re: Mutain< HellTown, Boston Township?
« Reply #12 on: Oct 10th, 2004, 03:32am » |
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Just thought I'd share a little bit of my own "Helltown" Experiences.I went to Bedford High School in the mid to late 80's.One of our weekend rituals was to pile in the car and drive down there to get a good scare(We called it Mutane Town at that time)We were told stories by people older than ourselves and we bought it all.After awhile my friends and I realized that the only thing strange was that we were stupid enough to believe all the legends,but not wanting to disappoint those younger than ourselves,we went right along and passed them on as well as making up more elaborate ones of our own(now I realize how much that hampers serious investigations of supposably haunted places but we were just kids and didn't know any better)The amusing thing about it all was that in the mid 90's I joined a Punk band from Parma with 3 guys 5 and 6 years younger than me,and they were talking about this place called Helltown where all this crazy stuff happens etc,etc,etc and a couple of the stories they said they heard of,were ones that were created by me and my crew back in the day(I got a hell of a chuckle out of that one).On a side note,at the house where the bus used to be,there's an old green propane tank,on it is spray painted "the Jerkoffs"(my old band) with an anarchy symbol.That was painted on there by my old Bass player in like 94 or 95,He also painted it on the side of the bus.Just had to share that.
I still go down ther occasionally but not to look for ghosts and satanic cults but to hang out and take pictures of the falls and the wildlife,it still is a really awesome place for that.
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Re: Mutain< HellTown, Boston Township?
« Reply #13 on: Oct 13th, 2004, 11:58pm » |
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Well, ok.. a lot I've been missing here...
First of all, yes, Boston cemetery has been a "cemetery" for probably over a thousand years... atually, early settlers weren't polite enought to rebury the bones and artifacts. So, that doesn't shock me at all.
As for free enterprise in the park, they actually decided to grant out land for agriculture.. not only to give people a possiblt jo outlet in this terrible economy, but to Keep the land being used as it had been for over a hundred years. Eminent domain was the fate of many places such as "Hell Town", so this was truly a refreshing change. They lease out the homes and allow specified farms to be had on the property. We live in a capitalist society.. what could be more American that that??
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Re: Mutain< HellTown, Boston Township?
« Reply #14 on: Oct 31st, 2004, 01:27am » |
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one time, at crybaby bridgh i was like woh what was that nuts. It was like... crying..i was like dude...its a f**king baby...dude.
So i was like baby.. are u crying and it was like...wah.
and i was like dude.
and it was like f**k u so i was like no
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